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It's prime-time exam time down here at Canterbury University so our AOC efforts to save civilisation, restore liberty to the New Zealand Isles, and give the Beehive a serious clean-out this spring are on hold until one of a large number of senior citizens tell us we can put our pens down and hand our exam scripts to the front. As such, my small brain only has time to bother itself with two things. Studying, and procrastination concerning studying. One less object of this activity has been one of the worst philosophy courses I've ever done. PHIL 317 Contemporary Political Philosophy with Simon Clarke. Why in blue blazes I ended up taking this course is a question that I find harder to answer than the sonambulistic inquiries addressed in the final exam on Wednesday. Likewise the essays we had to write, in which our old friend Karl Marx got tangled up in. Who suffers more than the liberty-loving philosophy student when his final grade depends on his ability to catch and release all the stupidest ideas in the Western World! Rather than delighting in books full of Popper or Rand or Mill, we're bludgeoned by the epsilon-semi-moronics of Marx and Rawls and Nozick. It's dead wood! It's rubbish! Knowing thy enemy is all well and good but investigating the fine-tip details of philosophical dead-end balderdash salesmen and not complaining about it is like....is exactly like this: That extract is the final word in Allen Wood's Marxian Critique of Justice, 1993. If you're like me it makes you just a little bit ticked off to read such huge lies about capitalism. In the first place it is a moral system, the only moral social system possible for us! And in the second place there happens to be a highly developed philosophy to say so with many books and authors saying it. It's just that we never get within a million miles of Popper's 'The Open Society and its Enemies' (even though he wrote the thing as a member of our philosophy department!) or Ayn Rand's 'Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal'. That's plenty bad enough as it is, and then you get Allen Bloody Wood telling us no such ideas exist and that, if they did exist, they wouldn't merit "serious consideration." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm recovering well and pleased that course is over forever. Next exam: Econ 335: Public Economics. Only almost as bad.
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Simon Clarke here, writing to defend my course. Firstly, the course does examine moral defenses of capitalism. Among the theories looked at are the libertarian views of Nozick and Gauthier, whose views are much more philosophically rigorous than Rand. (Popper's Open Society is a defense of liberalism not capitalism. I don't recall him being against some redistribution of wealth.) The course also examines left-wing thought such as Rawls and Marx, but not uncritically. I presented a lot of objections to both and egalitarianism generally. You're right that Allen Wood's claim that there are no moral defenses of capitalism is incorrect. By including that reading, I did not intend to endorse it. Many readings in a philosophy course will say mistaken things; part of the purpose of a course is for us all to sort out the truth from the falsehoods. Rick, you would have known all this if you had bothered to turn up to more than a handful of lectures. I don't keep a roll but I estimate that you came to about 6 lectures out of 24. That's not enough to assess a course. When you say 'we're bludgeoned by the epsilon-semi-moronics of Marx and Rawls and Nozick' this shows how little you know about the subject. Nozick is a libertarian not a socialist! Sorry you didn't enjoy the course, but if you'd made more of an effort you would've got more out of it.


Rick, Nozick is an Anarcho-Capitalist/Libertarian, who was pro Rand! He wrote his book "Anarchy, State and Utopia" as a rebuttal to Rawls.... Think you might have gone off a bit half cocked there, pays not to slag off your lecturers untill after your papers have been marked. Heh, I think extracts from it were given out at both the CIS Liberty and Society conference, and some of the ACT on Campus events.


Chill guys! Simon, I'm not disputing that your course examines some moral defenses of capitalism and I'm not saying you're brain-pals with Alan Wood. Nozick, I said, is a moron not a socialist. Read what I said again if you have to but the only charge you have to defend your course from is my allegation that it is full of dead-wood rubbish. That's why I only turned up for 3 lectures, not counting the one I slept through. Mike, I know about Nozick and his one book or else I wouldn't have judged him a moron. It's not enough for me that others like him or that he tips his hat to Ayn Rand. His writings are what matter. I've been through the book, I don't like it, he's ripping off his betters, and badly, and playing parlour games and get gets credit for it at the universities. If you get value out of his junk that's fine with me. No problems.


Sounds like you're back-tracking now Rick.. defend your opinion!


Ouch, Gee Rick well done, its scary when you have 10% of your concentration going. I was a bit afraid of this; "NZ establishments" may not be able to handle your accuracy and knowledge. But since Simon Clarke is paid and he made a point to rebuke you I don't feel too sorry for him. Simon, you need to be pretty sharp to get Mr Giles, I don't want to belittle him to a comparison to yourself or a State Uni. But if you want to rebuttal Mr Giles on what is and what is not a social and philosophical point do it away from public. I thank Rick again for his amazing grasp of not only the academic side of this, but the humanistic and care the Ideology's have on a society. The philosophical knowledge is only as small part, the master of which, Rick has. Application of the fluxing ideology to a angry society is hard. Rick would be nice to see you use %15 percent when you blog on a Uni, It will be fun.


Rick, I welcome you to the University of Otago for a debate. Any topic, one on one. You may even choose whether to affirm or negate.

You say you know about Nozick and his book, or you wouldn't have judged him a moron. Yet you judge a course to be "full of dead-wood rubbish" after attending only three lectures. That's 12.5 percent. How could you possibly know what the course is full of if you have attended only one 8th of the classes?

Anthony, looks like you got a little brown on your nose. You rebuke Dr Simon Clarke for making his statements in the public forum, yet praise Rick for the exact same. If Rick has the gall to publicly attack Dr Clarke's course instead of bring up the matter with him privately, then Dr Clarke has every right to defend himself and his course in the forum chosen by his critic. I sincerely hope you are a troll, Anthony, because you argue like one.

Again, Rick, please do come to the University of Otago for a debate. I will contact you privately with my details to arrange this if you respond favourably.



Can the matter please be something like "Does mankind signifigantly contribute to global warming", or something like that?

I would love to see the debate...



Sure, could be. It doesn't have to be related to Earth Hour, global warming/climate change, or even politics, if Rick doesn't wish it to be. Provided he gives me enough time to research, I honestly don't mind what the topic is, or whether he chooses to affirm or negate. I also realise that this may require me to put forward an argument I disagree with, but that's just part of debating.

Personally, I wouldn't mind debating on VSM, although I realise it's too late for the debate to carry weight, given the passing of the submissions deadline.

So,are you interested in a debate, Rick?



Hello Dr Hales.



I do not have a Doctorate. Also, I am only one Hale.



Nice to see how the other page relating to the Earth Hour topic has been removed (http://www.actoncampus.org.nz/blog/earth-hour-and-aoc), or at least made inaccessible to the public. It seems that Act On Campus finds the comments a little bit too hard to swallow... Not surprising..



Let's face it. He's got us. His argument is so powerful that it's not necessary to talk about it.



Rick, or anybody in AOC would slay you in a debate on VSM Simon. That's too easy.



Any publicity's good publicity - especially if it comes courtesy of that smarmy Oliver Driver.

Trawl the depths of any youth wing of a political party and you find people as bizarre as Rick. The kid's got an opinion, and found himself with an opportunity to express it on live television. All things considered, he did okay. Maybe members of other parties who fancy themselves as "professional" political commentators would disagree - but you get what you pay for and Sunrise doesn't pay.

Still - no need for Clint to rush to Rick's side, unless them fellas really are worried some of this internet muck might stick. Here's some [free] crisis advice: the net has a short memory, no need to worry.



Come on Rick you're fans would love to see that debate!!
If it's anything like you're latest efforts I'm sure it would be an instant hit on YouTube.

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